Jerry West is one of the true legends of the game. Mr. NBA logo. He’s also a poster child for perseverance in sports, having played in 9 NBA Championships and experiencing defeat in 8 of them.

After the The Miami Heat’s 2011 NBA Finals loss to the Dallas Mavericks, LeBron James reached out to the legend to ask for advice on how to get over the hump. On the Bay Area ABC7 post game show for Game 4 of this year’s finals, West talked about his advice to LeBron and gave an amazing story about feeling his lowest during his NBA career and wanting to put hands on a fan with reckless mouth.

West’s telling of the story made it evident that you should not mess with Jerry West.