Ken Griffey Jr. appeared on ESPN Wednesday to talk about Upper Deck baseball cards (which are still a thing, apparently). Sportscenter anchor Linda Cohn, who covered Griffey back in his Seattle days — the good old days, not the napping days — conducted the interview, which got off to a rough start and never quite found its footing.

Cohn does a good job attempting to move it along, as Griffey, who always had a somewhat contentious relationship with baseball media throughout his career, was clearly not in the mood.